The MatPat Controversy: The Story You Never Knew | Heartbound (Game Release Debacle) | Treesicle

MatPat, The Game Theorists, and GTLive have been the target of a lot of hate the past week or so. After posting a livestream to GTLive titled “The NEXT UNDERTALE GAME is Here! Heartbound (Game Release)”, the creator of Heartbound, Pirate Software, called MatPat out for using Undertale, Deltarune, and Toby Fox in the promotions of his game, and for not linking the game in the description. And, on top of that, a YouTuber by the name of LegalEagle called out MatPat and the Game Theorists for “plagiarizing” his video. And though we could go into that aspect of the controversy as well, at this point it seems very cut and dry that The Game Theorists did nothing of the sort, so we’re not even going to give it the time of day. Join your host, Grant, as he breaks down this whole weird week of MatPat controversy and uncovers it all in the Story You Never Knew!

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  • Murderers: Hey
    Community: What's up
    Matpat: H-

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Tree sicle or slimesicle

    Channel Name
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • I don't care what happens, I'm on Team Theorist, all the way!

    Gamer 39
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • I hear that danganronpa music

    8-ball UwU
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • I bet that during all of this all you could hear was megalovania.

    Glitchmin gaming
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Seeing people attacking Pirate Software is really messed up because they're a really small team doing their best and they're all super nice. It wasn't about being petty or about MatPat forgetting their name, it was just a simple request to be properly credited that people blew WAY out of proportion because MatPat is a big YouTuber.

    Rosie Gaines
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Loved the Danganronpa music

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Maybe you should just make up stories about fictional things, not real controversies.

    Razalas Ener
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • I'm quite sure not including that "GAME" on the title would've made it a lot better

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • I never saw this when it happened. This man played a game, was like "this game is similar to this other game" and people were mad.

    Solar Pellets
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • I had to refresh myself on this because I remembered that I was on MatPat's side for it. I just couldn't remember why. The game developer was definitely in the wrong here. MatPat didn't have to give them so many more times the exposure than they had.

    Josh Smith
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • This could have been an elaborate plan because know everyone is talking about heartbound

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • this was a very rational point by point analysis of the situation
    v professional ty

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Matpat's skepticism got him in trouble once again

    jayvhon calma
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Matpat: theorist
    This one dude: making a theory about this theorist

    RE҉G҉A҉N҉ T҉H҉E҉ GA҉M҉E҉R҉
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • That can't be your real voice…😆

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • The worst part is that despite this being well over a year old and been dealt with, people are still bring this up how Toby "destroyed"Matpat and still getting over 1k likes

    God I regret ever getting a twitter account

    Shakiel Taylor
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • This is the stupidest fucking thing I’ve ever seen, the next undertake game ISNT misleading. He’s just saying that it’s like undertake. So people SHUT THE FUCK UP and don’t go and slag off MatPat. (I know I’m late but still it annoys me)!

    Liam Molloy
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • This video is old but for some reason it's only getting reccomended to me now but I agree- Undertale is clearly an inspiration for Heartbound and since Heartbound was a new game at the time, there would be no full playthoughs yet. As an Undertale fan, I found the Heartbound stream through some Undertale tags and I got the game and played it for myself. That's not a loss, in my opinion.
    In regards to not linking the game, that's fine. If someone really wanted to get it, they could look at the title of the video and google it. It's not difficult.

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • God the community is absolutely desperate to making MatPat die like the others, why is this a thing?!

    Daru [NEW]
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Lets plays exist in a very nebulous legal area. There is a very strong argument that it is just a form of piracy. The go to argument against this is that lets plays arnt piracy, they actually drive sales and so are good and should be legal. If you just throw that argument out the window by saying people doing a lets play shouldnt be expected to drive sales of the game they play, you have thrown away your best defensive to avoid takedown notices

    Frankly, this hill isnt worth dying on. It is in everyones interest to avoid that worst case scenario of companies taking this to court and explicitly fucking everyone over, such as only allowing official lets plays that have been sanctioned by the devs ahead of time. We need devs to continue to believe that their business is better off for allowing lets plays to exist in the liberal way they do now. When lets players say you shouldnt expect their lets plays to boost sales, and that they cant be fucked taking a minute to add a link to their store page….. Well, thats a pretty big fuck you to that company. If we want to keep lets plays, we really need to avoid pissing these companies off

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • MatPat made a mistake and got overly defensive over it once he began to get called out.

    However, Pirate REALLY should have messaged him privately and tried to resolve the matter just between them, rather than trying to publicly disgrace him over it.

    That's my opinion.

    Thor Christensen
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Mat just made a mistake why is everyone being so mean

    Kaiju King
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Matpat is receiving way more hate than he deserves. When he does something like this or the tf2 vs overwatch,people give him the amount of hate as if he had something to the scale of the Logan Paul controversy.

    Gabe the Stranger
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • "You went too far this time." That last part of the tweet just bothers me. .—.

    Captain Churro
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • I love the danganronpa music lmao

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Did you always play Danganronpa music in the background?

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • The only problem i have with matt is the persona 4 theory
    And boy don't even get me started

    Joe M. Omma
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Credit the danganronpa music lmfao

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • And here we are a year later and no one cares about Heartbound….
    Maybe Pirate Software should've just kept their mouths shut and taken the exposure 🙄😂

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • All I can think is that the game is similar to the style of Undertale so that is an easy mistake and that is was a live stream so mistakes happen when doing hour-long vids with minimum after editing
    But then again I'm not a youtuber

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • This is a real Nontroversy

    Vince Pale
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • I feel like I don’t hate Matpat as a person, but some of the theories and posts he make are outright insulting. His Kirby and JoJo theories still piss me off to this day because of how false they are. And yes, I feel like you’re the better theory channel.

    Mitty Commits Pizza Time
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • …is that the danganronpa theme at the beginning?

    blossoming confused
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Wow i never knew about this game until now….

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Matt: I just did a very bad thing

    T r a s h I g n i t e d
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • In my opinion I’m kinda upset with the game studio because there basically getting upset with and shaming Matpat for not sponsoring them plus they didn’t even release the full game AT a good time.
    This controversy makes no sense ;-;

    Breanna Page
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • These dumbfucks think Heartbound is not at all inspired by undertale,

    The Dark Master The Dark Master
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • This stream helped to make the game popular and all they do is hate and even demand more like putting a fucking link into the description while everyone can google it in seconds and they should be happy that a big streamer showed their game, probably earned these ungrateful haters alot of cash while others devs from niche games (simulations, exotic genres etc.) never find this exposure. If this is all true then what an asshole behaviour from the devs and they never deserved the exposure in the first place. I also checked the review section on Steam and every second entry is mentioning Undertale as comparison. There is something psychic about the devs behaviour which somehow is typical for the developers and playerbase of games like this, can´t name what it is exactly.

    Crockett C
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • tldr : It was all just because of a few people not thinking twice about what they're saying and how they're saying ky, which caused a misunderstanding.

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Haha the usage of the Danganrompa music was done perfectly. I applaud the editor who mad this choice and they should know they made my day!

    Jillian Gerson
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • I’m just jamming to that Danganronpa music

    soda ouma
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • No Mat Pat is getting pretty crappy.

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Jeez you can never make a mistake on the internet

    Laika the star
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Your background is DR music?!?

    Veronica Holme
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Actual criminals: exist

    Everyone: cricket sounds

    The internet: Oh LoOk, MaTPaT MaDe a MiStaKe, I'm AbOuT To EnD HiS EnTiRe CaReeR

    Julianne the dark angel
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Wow, an actual, rational take on the situation. Fuck verlisfy

    Colton Schmolton
    Posted July 12, 2020
  • You are kinda sound bias here!
    the point here is that matpat is only playing that game use clickbait to get the undertale fans

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • This shows how desperate cancel culture is to shut someone down. smh

    Posted July 12, 2020
  • Honestly. I find it hilarious It seems like as a theorist people are mor willing to criticize his opinions as if they're facts… It is literally all just for fun as he does state (many times) and I feel like I can't think of any other youtuber with such innocent content (Come on now, vs dead bodies and conspiracy theories, it is) who's half as polarizing as he is.

    Emily White
    Posted July 12, 2020

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